Yeah I wasn’t making a comment on restoration to increase value - technically it should not significantly as it would be ubiquitous and circular - ie it would be cheaper then to just buy an old watch and send it in for restoration rather than buy the already restored watch. I do note there’s a seller of a 6145-8050 on Chrono24 who’s asking triple the going rate because of the restoration though ...
I was more making a comment on it would be surprising if GS did this. First yes it would undercut Kamil quite a lot I think. Second it would be hugely popular yet has never been publicized. Third it would reduce a reason to buy their modern reissues (who would buy an SBGW047 for 8k if u can buy the 44GS for half of that and send it in for official restoration?). Same goes for the Firsts.
Sorry - missed your comment. I think this is a very personal matter, and something that shouldn't be undertaken (either by GS or a third party) with an expectation of increasing the value of a watch should you choose to sell it down the line. That's not to say restoration can't increase the value, but that is going to be down to you and any potential buyer agreeing a price for the watch.
The key thing is - will you get more enjoyment out of the watch if it is refinished well by someone such as Kamil, or GS themselves (if this piece truly is indicative of what they can do - again, strong caveat here is we don't have any photos of the case before it went to them).
I have a couple of pieces with Kamil now (that I'll probably get back sometime in 2024!) that I think will be significantly improved aesthetically once he has worked his magic on them. One is a 44GS whose case had been poorly refinished by a third party. There's no question that the watch will be a lot more attractive when it comes back from him than when I sent it off!
Always a sad little rain cloud over the 56GS imo. And this week’s feature is no exception. But hey, you can’t just get a nice 6156 8040 and pretend it never happened (I tried).
What were you're thoughts on that 4580-7010 listed earlier this week with the missing dial?
I half wonder if they legitimately had a junk model and fixed it up with parts, or (and the idea is equally humorous to me), if they bought parts only over time and build the entire watch from sourced parts.
I kinda believe the latter as it would explain the missing dial better.
Yeah I wasn’t making a comment on restoration to increase value - technically it should not significantly as it would be ubiquitous and circular - ie it would be cheaper then to just buy an old watch and send it in for restoration rather than buy the already restored watch. I do note there’s a seller of a 6145-8050 on Chrono24 who’s asking triple the going rate because of the restoration though ...
I was more making a comment on it would be surprising if GS did this. First yes it would undercut Kamil quite a lot I think. Second it would be hugely popular yet has never been publicized. Third it would reduce a reason to buy their modern reissues (who would buy an SBGW047 for 8k if u can buy the 44GS for half of that and send it in for official restoration?). Same goes for the Firsts.
Let us know how it goes!
If they will start restoring GS then that’s like a strictly preferable option to the Lapinist? Which is already mega popular
Sorry - missed your comment. I think this is a very personal matter, and something that shouldn't be undertaken (either by GS or a third party) with an expectation of increasing the value of a watch should you choose to sell it down the line. That's not to say restoration can't increase the value, but that is going to be down to you and any potential buyer agreeing a price for the watch.
The key thing is - will you get more enjoyment out of the watch if it is refinished well by someone such as Kamil, or GS themselves (if this piece truly is indicative of what they can do - again, strong caveat here is we don't have any photos of the case before it went to them).
I have a couple of pieces with Kamil now (that I'll probably get back sometime in 2024!) that I think will be significantly improved aesthetically once he has worked his magic on them. One is a 44GS whose case had been poorly refinished by a third party. There's no question that the watch will be a lot more attractive when it comes back from him than when I sent it off!
Always a sad little rain cloud over the 56GS imo. And this week’s feature is no exception. But hey, you can’t just get a nice 6156 8040 and pretend it never happened (I tried).
What were you're thoughts on that 4580-7010 listed earlier this week with the missing dial?
I half wonder if they legitimately had a junk model and fixed it up with parts, or (and the idea is equally humorous to me), if they bought parts only over time and build the entire watch from sourced parts.
I kinda believe the latter as it would explain the missing dial better.
Hi Christian - I discussed that one in last week’s newsletter :)
Whoops, missed that while scrolling on the tube. I'll head back and re-look. Thanks again (for you patience too 😅).